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Magazine Details:
Binding: Electronics
EAN: 0094922016713
Label: Energy, Inc.
Feature: Works with Google PowerMeter
Compatible with Windows PC, Mac & Linux !
Accurate to within 2%
View real-time energy data remotely via Internet or mobile device
Ties into Home Automation Systems
Publisher: Energy, Inc.
Studio: Energy, Inc.

Editorial Reviews

Smart Meters" are designed primarily for the electric utility industry so they can better manage the supply-and-demand of electricity. TED is designed specifically for the consumer, so that one can better manage the use and costs of electricity. TED puts YOU in charge. The next generation in home energy monitoring, the TED 5000 Series provides all the benefits of the TED 1000 series along with a new look and improved functionality. The brand new Gateway component, the TED 5000 system provides all the information any energy-conscious homeowner can dream of with added accessibility and feedback! TED Gateway The Heart of TED 5000 is the Gateway, the newest component to the TED monitoring system, and the driving force behind the TED 5000. The Gateway provides the TED system with added functionality and data accessibility to make home energy management easier than ever! With the TED 5000, the Gateway receives and stores your energy data internally. The Gateway stores 60 minutes of Second-data, 2 days of Minute-data, 90 days of Hourly-data, 24 months of Daily-data, and 10 years of Monthly-data. Your real-time and historical data can be viewed on your computer by utilizing the Gateway's Ethernet jack, IP chip, and embedded TED Footprints software (Windows, Mac, and Linux compatible). Additionally, when you connect the Gateway to your wireless router, you can access your data from any computer or mobile device with Internet access. TED 5000-G Includes: Gateway + 1-MTU/CTs Works with: -- Homes with Single Electrical Panels -- Homes with Single Electrical Panels and Solar/wind installations (will only record the net of generation/production. The model TED 5000G comes with all the components necessary to monitor energy usage. In addition, you can still use your computer or mobile device to track your energy data. The Footprints firmware is embedded in the Gateway and works with Google PowerMeter.

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I'm an engineer who works with electrical components with work so I can't complain about general installation. If you don't understand or it seems tough, get a qualified electrician. Better that than burning your house down or electrocuting yourself.

I was an advocate for this until I noticed loads in my home starting and stopping with no reaction from the 'real time KW usage' display. A closer review of my logs revealed blackout periods in the graph where my KW locked in at a very low level. I found I can turn this on or off, ironically by switching on any of the overhead LED bulbs I purchased to save electricity. Based on this, I have to conclude the MTU / gateway communication is susceptible to noise.

This requires fixing whether it be a more robust communication solution, offer a filtration solution or at the very least tell the users they need to park the gateway close to the MTU. A better product management / engineering course of action would have been to work these issues out before marketing TED as a consumer product. Regrettable, but I'll try relocating the gateway and cross my fingers.
I'm a big fan of the TED 5000, got it quite early on and wrote the "it's electric" application for displaying its data nicely on a web page. TED 5000 works well, but you may need to be persistent in order to get it working for you. Installation is not hard (I found it hard to get the CTs to close properly over the giant wires inside my electric box, but nothing terrible), but you are quite likely not to be done when you install. The problem is that the MTUs in your circuit breaker box talk to your Gateway plugged in somewhere in your house over the power line. Neat idea (seems almost magical really) but it causes more problems than it's worth.

For if there's any source of noise... such as a couple of compact fluorescent lights... your Gateway may not get the signal. This is very frustrating. In the end, I had to run an Ethernet cable all the way across my house in order to reach the distant circuit where the Gateway actually reliably got signals from both breaker boxes. AND I had an electrician run a wire BETWEEN the breaker boxes so both MTUs plugged into the same circuit. I was very close to getting said electrician back to put a single outlet on the same circuit and plug the Gateway in there. Presumably, that would have eliminated all noise. As you can see, you need to be prepared to spend considerable time on your TED 5000 project. If only they had just used wifi to communicate!

But maybe the price point would have changed. Another reviewer said TED 5000 is the best of its kind it this price range, and I suspect that's true.

Don't waste money on the display, if you're the kind of person who regularly looks at a computer (or iPhone, etc.) anyway. It's not good enough to be worth much extra money in my opinion.
I bought this device so I could lower my insanely high electric bill. I use about 3000 KwH per month, which is more than twice what I should be using.

I installed the TED-5000-G myself this past weekend. Within 45 minutes I was monitoring my electricity in real-time on the Ted Footprint software. The device works exactly as advertised.
I was also able to install the free companion Iphone App and instantly monitor my real-time usage on my Iphone. On top of that, I also took advantage of the option to automatically upload usage data to Google Power Meter so I can monitor my usage from anywhere. Very cool.

The 5000-G kit comes with two components: An MTU which is a meter that gets installed on your circuit panel, and a Gateway that gets plugged into an ordinary outlet and is attached to your network. The MTU transmits data to the Gateway. The gateway stores the data and is what is accessed over your network to monitor usage.

I am not an electrician, but was still able to install it myself. I watched the installation video on the TheEnergyDetective.Com about 5 times before I read the instructions. I highly recommended watching the video. Here is the installation video link:. Surprisingly, my installation went about as smoothly as the one on the video. That never happens! When I ordered the kit I also purchased a filter from Ted for $5 bucks. I have two battery backup devices at my house that I read could cause interference. I did not need to use the filter though. The one snafu I almost ran into was after I pulled off the circuit panel cover and thought that I was out of unused circuits on my circuit panel. It took me a while to figure out that there were two unused split circuit breakers. Plugging the wires into the circuit breakers was a little harder than the video implied, but I managed. I installed the MTU outside of the circuit panel so I could see the MTU status light after I put the panel cover back on.

Once the MTU was in I was home free. I plugged the gateway into the wall upstairs and connected it to a Linksys network switch. I was worried that it needed to go directly into the router, but it worked just fine with the switch in between. After I entered the MTU id into the Ted software I installed on my PC, it found the device immediately and I was on my way.

I paid full retail price ($199.99) plus like $20 bucks for shipping from Ted. I am not sure I would order it directly from them if I had to do it all over again. My shipment got delayed because they were moving offices. There are a few websites that offer the same price with free shipping. I would go that route. I am glad I went without the wireless monitoring accessory. The iPhone app does the same exact thing.

Now the bad news. My steam shower is 9000 watts!!! Holy cow!! Thats about $1 per use. That adds up! My dehumidifier is costing me $50 bucks per month! Also, my wife finds it terribly annoying when I call her from work to ask what she just turned on. ...and this is only 3 days in!

I recommend this device. It will most likely pay for itself just by reminding you of your energy usage, plus its kind of fun.
This is not a project for the faint of heart, but once installed, it gives you real-time visibility into your household's electrical consumption. This lets you isolate the heavy users and hopefully trim a few dollars from your monthly power bill. Yay!

Our power company recently started sending out charts showing where we stand vs. 100 of our nearest neighbors. Unfortunately, we were #1 -- i.e., our energy consumption was the highest in the neighborhood. Determined to take a closer look, I started looking for energy monitors.

Some monitors "look" at the meter and watch the wheel spin around-- but we don't have that kind of meter. TED provides a more accurate measurement using current loops-- just like the ones you see in the hardware store on current meters-- but it requires installation inside your electrical service center. If you're comfortable doing that sort of work, it's really not all that bad. Just watch the install video and exercise caution. Or have one of your handy friends do it for you. : )

Unfortunately, as many have noted previously, TED decided to use the house power line as its communication channel between the sensor (MTU) and the gateway, rather than providing a separate CAT6, wireless, or similar strategy. Although I have been *reasonably* successful using X10 in my 106-year-old house, and have a logitech alert security camera system working just fine (it also communicates via house wiring), the TED system WOULD NOT communicate. This was particularly frustrating since my MTU and gateway were only about 3 feet apart, and connected to the same physical circuit breaker. Clearly there was something in the house wiring which interfered with the frequencies they're using to send data-- and with TED, it's all or nothing.

Fortunately, the TED folks have thought of everything-- and provide trouble shooting check lists and videos to help solve just this sort of problem. My only choice was to install a wired-in X10 filter to segregate the MTU and gateway circuit from the rest of the electrical panel (available for $9 from TED). The instructions they provide are excellent, and actually work. After installing the filter, the TED components had no trouble communicating-- and the system works great!

One other frustration-- the MTU sensor loops (current transformers) are BIG. Maybe this is necessary, but they barely fit inside my 200 amp panel. I have a smallish Square-D panel with only 20 circuit breakers (well, back when I put it in, life was simpler then...). The sensors are so tight that I can barely put the cover back on the panel. Add the LARGE X10 filter, and I'm just relieved that it all (barely) fit together. I did install the MTU outside of the box so that its LED is visible.

The readings appear to be quite accurate (and sensitive), and since Google Power has now gone off the air, I'm trying "PeoplePower" on my Android phone and my iPad as a simple walk-around meter. As with many programs, the Android version is still just a bit flaky (and can't seem to remember my utility settings), but the iPad/iPhone version works just fine. Being able to walk around the house or yard, turn things on and off, and see the net result within a minute or so on my phone or iPad is priceless. I can see when my pool pump kicks in or the A/C activates its compressor. I'm taking notes and building a spreadsheet so that we can make better decisions on what to replace and what to retire.

All houses should come with one of these. : )
Just finished setting up my TED 5000.
You must be somewhat technically savvy to install the MTU(Sensing Unit) and the set up and connection to the gateway unit (the unit that connects to your network) on a mac is less well documented . You have to download the mac utility on the support page.
The main problem I had, like many others, was to have the MTU "talking" to the gateway over my home electric grid. Locating the gateway to my basement solved the problem.
The software also would profit from better tracking ability but googlepowermeter helps and it's amazing how the meter makes you more energy conscious.
If you have an iOS device get the free TED-O-Meter and save on the display unit.
I have read many post about just how hard or complicated the ted 5000 is to setup and how it interferes with X10 and can't be on the same circuit as and Apple router for example well all I have to say is my house was built in 1955 and has original electrical and well super easy to install the box was a little tight but still super simple plugged the indoor unit into the same powerstrip as my Apple Airport, X10 control module and a couple of other devices, well it all works just fine no lost data from the panel unit and no odd X10 ons or offs. Don't know what all the fuss is about. Also TED-O-Meter for the iPhone or iPad is a great mobile viewer for the Ted 5000 no need for the G if you have a iOs Device, and the app is free.
I installed this unit two days ago and I am very impressed. Installation does require opening your electrical box and you may need an electrician if you aren't comfortable adding wires to a breaker.

The only glitch for me was that after upgrading the firmware on the gateway and mtu, the mtu stopped sending data. I flipped the breaker it was on and it started communicating immediately.

The data I am receiving seems very accurate and I was able to use the real time data to create a spreadsheet tracking how much energy individual devices use. The TED monitoring software is outstanding. I can monitor everything away from home and on my Android phone. Very detailed information and a smooth package. I don't see a need for the separate energy monitor unless you don't gave a computer or an internet capable phone.

I highly recommend this product and can't stop showing it off.
Worked great for me. Installation inside the breaker box was pretty straightforward. It took some trying to find an outlet close to my router that didn't have interference. Glad I didn't get the monitor, free app on iPod/iPhone works just fine.
I have had TED in operation for about 10 days now. It really works. Time will tell but it looks like it is going to be right on the money in tracking my power usage for the month. It was easy to install and I picked up an App. for my iPhone that monitors it as well.(Mirawatt T5K) The iPhone App looks to me to does everything the TED remote monitor does and it just cost $5.
I purchased this item so as to be able to monitor both my home's energy use and the energy produced by my rooftop solar system. Installation was easy but does require the willingness to go into your electric service panel. If you don't feel comfortable doing this then get a professional to do it, it will take him 15 min to install the MTU's in the panel. Plugging in the receiver and connecting it to your router is simplicity itself. The software is simple to install for either a PC or MAC and the display (optional on this unit) is wireless and allows you to monitor the energy stats at another location in your home. The information provided by the system is very useful in determining which items in your home use the most power, as the unit is accurate to within 1 watt the simple act of turning on a light will cause the numbers to change. Due to this I will be changing out a water cooler that is using way to much power. I purchased a second set of MTU's for my solar installation and the readout will now show me the house power usage, the power generated by the solar array and the net power being returned to the power company. This is vital information to have in both monitoring you solar array and the return on your investment by insuring the credit returned by the utility is correct. I love this system and would recommend it to anyone who needs or wants to monitor their electrical usage or generation.
Found watching the trouble shooting videos easier than doing the install via the instruction sheet. I recommend watching them before starting the install. Only downside to product is having the data run on the electrical wires! Could only get the Gateway to work on an outlet in the same room as the electrical panel. Also found my dining room light kills the signal and now need to install a filter! Would much prefer that the MTU have a build in Wi-Fi connection that could talk directly with my router. That way, they could do away with the Gateway altogether & simplify the install process. Who knows, it may even be cheaper to produce. Found GUI easy to understand and set up. Can now see the consumption of most devices in the house by getting a base line and then switching on devices one at a time while watch the dial on the iPhone app.
Despite some inconsistencies in the installation documentation and system requirements, once it's connected properly, it appears to work very well. Great way to get a better understanding of your household energy requirements.
I first tried black and Decker EM100b. though the device is easy to install, it had many issues. Then bought TED5000, which is the best energy monitoring system out there for the price, period. Does it need improvements? yes. with the load profiling and pluggable MTU, etc.
I was worried based about TED, based upon many reviews across the internet which did not speak favoribly of it, mostly based upon problems with getting the powerline communications to work due to interference. Despite that, looking at all the alternatives, it really seemed that TED was the only energy monitoring system that was accurate enough and consistant in it readings that was a reasonable price. I considered Brultech, which allows monitoring of all the circuits, but it seemed more like a do-it-yourself project, where TED was ready to go out of th ebox.

I had no problems with installation. First place I hooked it up worked without a hitch. 5 minutes to install, and it has been humming along with no real glitches for 3 weeks. Good thing, since the price of oil this winter means I am relying more on zone heating with space heaters, and I wanted to track how much my electricity bill would change with adding heaters.
I like being able to read the data from my sub panel and the accuracy of the data read from TED is spot-on.
Easy to install, all things considered.
Complaints:
Current probes a bit big. Need to use smaller ones.
The software inside the gateway is totally hopeless. Yet, after years on the market they still can't do better.
The TED5000 is an awesome kit. It installed flawlessly and I upgraded the firmware right away. Load profiles don't work so good, but that is a difficult thing to measure. Wish I had more CTs for it. Might add an MTU and CTs for other loads in the house!

Web interface is all javascript and works with iPhone/Android3.2.
I installed the first Ted 5000 and it worked for one week. I called technical support and found them to be rude. I returned the equipment, a replacement arrived and I reinstalled it. It worked for three weeks, then failed again. Do not call technical support on a Friday afternoon, they are extremely rude. Replacement equipment arrived today, it does not work at all. Do not buy the TED 5000. It does not work reliably and is a waste of time and money. I am returning it for the third time for a full refund.
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